From learning all there is to know about SEO best practices to teaching training courses to the UK government, Joshua George specializes in all things SEO.Â
In 2016, Joshua started his London-based marketing agency, ClickSlice. Having faced common business trials and tribulations, he has created a proven sales process. And by hiring the right employees, his agency remains on the road to long-term success.Â
Find out how he built his SEO marketing agency from being virtually undiscoverable on the SERPs to serving 30 retainer-based clients.
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Running one of the most successful eBay stores in the UK in 2015 taught Joshua many valuable lessons early on in his careerâthe biggest one being how to keep 100% of his profits in his hands.Â
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âI made our website from scratch, and of course, it wasnât getting found on Google,â Joshua laughs. âWe were getting no traffic and generated no sales.âÂ
Joshuaâs Google search, âHow to get your website into the first page of Googleâ quickly became a full-blown obsession.Â
âOnce I started learning about SEO, I knew if it benefited my own business, surely it can help benefit other peopleâs businesses, too,â Joshua says.Â
But it wasnât all smooth sailing from there. George faced business challenges like many other agency owners, such as choosing a niche for your agency or not. Â
âMy initial aim was to just focus on one industry, like SEO for solar panel companies or SEO for lawyers,â Joshua explains. âI wanted to focus on a particular niche. But the UK isn't that big of a place, and I realized that approach wasn't possible to scale.âÂ
Instead, he focussed on the services his agency could offerâSEOâand eventually would specialize in one type of SEO services.Â
âOur focus is the way we do SEO differently,â Joshua says.Â
He noticed that his competitors would offer generic SEO strategies to their clients and just âhopeâ the strategy would pay off in the long run.Â
âTheyâll say, âYouâre on page five; you need to be on page 1, so weâll write you two blog posts a month, maybe four backlinks, and weâll just make up the campaign as we go along.â But we wanted to create a more concrete process,â he explains.Â
His team starts by looking at the top-ranking site on the SERP, how many blogs their site has, how active they are, and how many links to build as part of their off-page SEO strategy.Â
âItâs a proven blueprint to follow because youâre not just making it up as you go along,â Joshua says.Â
However, he admits itâs a lot of upfront work and is most likely one of the main reasons why competitors donât take this approach.Â
âWe have three full-time employees just focusing on that initial competitive analysis stage,â he says. âIt can be a bit overwhelming, but we need to look at it on a granular level because it works absolutely amazing for our clients.âÂ
Completing the initial work during the research phase of their sales process has paid off in the long run for ClickSlice.Â
âWe used to charge upfront for all of this analysis,â Joshua explains. âBut what I found by looking at our sales process is if you ask for a lot of money upfront from a client to do what you should be doing anyway, it looks disingenuous. Because how do you know how much youâd be charging that client? You have no idea what strategy to implement for them, so it has to be done upfront before that client is actually your client.âÂ
Although they spend a lot of time, money, and resources in the initial stages, itâs been a significant differentiator that potential clients receive positively.Â
Clients like to shop, around going to multiple agencies, and when they see a generic, almost made-up proposal and then they see our bespoke, detailed breakdown of what weâve done with their analysis, weâre already above every other agency thatâs also trying to compete for that client. So our conversion rate is super high.
Aside from their detailed competitive analysis approach, Joshua also wanted to go beyond the data to show why a client should choose his agency over others.Â
âA big part of our sales process is educating our clients,â he explains. âWe canât just tell them, âWeâre going to do ABC because of this.â Education is key, and when clients understand why weâre doing certain things, theyâre way more open, receptive, and patient.âÂ
In the early days of building his agency, Joshua was more involved in the sales process. He found success in making personal connections with potential leads through video, as it would build long-term trust with them.Â
âI used video because I loved that I could show them their website in real-time. Plus, itâs more engaging compared to typing up all the details into email format thatâs usually overwhelming for a client,â Joshua says. âI could also show my face quickly to help build trust, and they knew who they were actually talking to. The goal was to really personalize the video, not scare them away with SEO jargon, and show them the value Iâd bring.âÂ
As his agency took on more clients, he stepped away from the day-to-day sales processes to focus more on his founder role and growing the business. But he wanted to ensure that his video strategy stayed in place.
To streamline this initiative, Joshua implemented specific CTA buttons on their website, such as âbook a call,â âbook a free audit,â or âbook a free discovery call.â Each of these links to a Calendly invite where potential clients can set up a video call with a salesperson to go over their current website and any goals they have.Â
âIt gives a personal touch that goes a long way,â Joshua says. âThere are a lot of agency sites in London that put you down this rabbit hole of filling out a form, and then they reply to you via email, and you miss that human interaction. Doing video calls helps us build more trust, which helps with conversion.âÂ
âWe do a lot of SEO on our own site and compete for a lot of SEO keywords in London,â says Joshua. âYou should definitely be doing SEO if youâre an SEO agency because people do look for terms like âSEO services.ââ
He says some of their most popular keywords include âSEO trainingâ and âSEO courses.âÂ
âWe have a lot of SEO courses available, and they do pretty well,â says Joshua. âHowever, I also get a lot of emails saying, âThe course is great, but can you please expand on this, or can you give me specific training on my particular website?ââÂ
Image: Joshua George teaching one of his SEO training courses.
He wanted to provide other business owners with the knowledge to do well on their own, and if they needed additional help, they would think of ClickSlice first.
âPeople searching for SEO training in London specifically want training, right? Theyâre not searching for SEO services,â he explains. âSo weâll do the training, and then sometimes that translates into, âI didnât realize it was so detailed. How much do you guys charge to manage it?â Now they became a client, and we made two salesâthe training and acquiring a client.âÂ
Joshuaâs SEO training courses were so successful that he even taught the UK government when they reached out to him for help.Â
âWe have a page on our website dedicated to SEO training and courses, and it ranks number two for SEO training in London,â Joshua explains.
âWhen I saw the Calendly link come through, I saw the email was â.govâ, and I couldnât believe the government was inquiring about SEO.âÂ
So Joshua and his team went to train 16 government officials in the entire SEO process, from keyword research to content creation and backlinks and audits.Â
âIt went really well, and Iâve actually checked the traffic on some of the pages I provided training on, and itâs actually gone up in traffic dramatically,â Joshua smiles.Â
He plans to continue offering SEO training courses as a means of networking and acquiring clients in the future.Â
Building a Team Devoted to DetailsÂ
ClickSlice currently has 12 full-time employees with a structure in place that promotes long-term agency growth.Â
Joshua implemented this structure almost two years ago:
Sales team
SEO team
Link building team
Data analysis expertÂ
Blog post writerÂ
Website developer
SEO assistantÂ
âWe have quite a few different departments, but they all work like an assembly line that works really well together,â Joshua says.Â
He admits that it took him some time to realize he needed this agency structure in place to kickstart the growth of his agency.Â
I wish I discovered this years ago. And I think itâs the reason we didnât scale as fast because I tried to have control over everything. Letting go and having trust in your team plays a big role when you want to scale your agency.
âJoshua George, Founder of ClickSlice
Finding and hiring talented employees was a challenge that Joshua faced in the beginning. He struggled with applicants saying they were experienced and then not actually being as qualified as they said they were.
âHiring has been one of our biggest pain points,â Joshua shares. âOur team is currently the strongest itâs ever been, but weâve made a lot of bad hires.âÂ
However, he overcame this hurdle by writing detailed job descriptions that would eliminate applicants who might not be the best fit for the role. Â
âOur hiring process is a lot more strict now. We write a massive description, and the last sentence of the job post is, âSay the word âSliceâ in your application so I know youâve read this.â Because so many people apply without reading the job description and we want people that pay attention to detail because you need to be meticulous when it comes to SEO.âÂ
After putting the right people in the right positions, it came down to a matter of allowing team members to thrive in what they do best.Â
âPlaying to peopleâs strengths makes them happier, which makes me happier,â he says. âAnd happier staff deliver great results and great work for clients. And then our clients are happy. So itâs a win-win for everyone.â
Since implementing this structure at his agency, Joshua has noticed a positive shift in morale and agency culture.
âWe have a Slack channel that is absolute non-stop banter! Weâre all laughing and joking, and itâs created a nice atmosphere at the company,â Joshua smiles. âWe all have a real passion for what weâre doing.âÂ
He advises other agency owners to implement an employee structure sooner and make sure their employees feel like theyâre a part of the business.Â
âI have a lot of friends who run agencies in the UK, and they all run their businesses differently,â he explains. âTheyâll say, âIâm going to do ABC and not really tell the team what comes in.â But I like to keep my team in the loop with everything going on because the more they know, the more they feel involved.âÂ
One of the ways he keeps open communication with his team is through weekly internal calls. Joshua says it keeps everyone on the same page for spending goals, plans for the quarter and upcoming quarters, and more. Itâs been instrumental in his agencyâs growth as itâs created a more relaxed environment that keeps everyone aligned and not feeling micromanaged.Â
Building the Number One SEO Agency in London
To recap ClickSliceâs roadmap to marketing agency success, Joshua ironed out his internal processes. He focussed on these core areas:Â
Specializing in specific servicesÂ
Creating a proven sales process that sets them apart from competitorsÂ
Building trust with clients through videoÂ
Offering training courses to acquire clients
Hiring the right employees and fostering a thriving environment
As for the future, he hopes to focus on SEO services for eCommerce clients.Â
âItâs something that goes back to my history with my eBay store,â George says. âWhen you work with eCommerce clients, you can pretty much work with any niche out there. It helps to build up your expertise and show people why itâs better to work with an eCommerce SEO agency versus a generic SEO agency.â  Â
He and his team have been testing it out as a differentiator in their UK market and have been pleased with the results.Â
âI also want to be the number one SEO agency in London,â says Joshua. âAnd not just in terms of Google rankings. I think weâre number three now, which is quite cool. But I want to be known as, âIf you want SEO, this is who you go to. They mean business. They have a proven process. Theyâve been hired by the government. Theyâre the real deal.ââÂ
Written by
Richelle Peace
Richelle Peace is a writer with a degree in Journalism who focuses on web content, blog posts, and social media. She enjoys learning about different topics and sharing that knowledge with others. When she isnât writing, Richelle spends time teaching yoga, where she combines mindfulness, movement, and her passion for wellness.